Monday, November 16, 2009

A social worker denied my friends welfare benefits based on having access/use to their parents car?

According to their social worker, they were not eligible for benefits because they mentioned having use of a 3rd car which was not owed by them and registered to their parent; they considered this to having liquid assests? This is so unfair as they were not given the temporary aide needed to support their family with a child. Do they have an option to appeal this decision made by this social worker? How can the social worker make this decision to deny benefits; even if they own the vehicle; which they do not, (they had to provide proof of "non-ownership") is the social worker suggesting they sell the car that they do not own?

A social worker denied my friends welfare benefits based on having access/use to their parents car?
Maybe before having a child, they should have stopped to look at their financial situation. Babies don't pop out of thin air...but it does take a decision to create one.





Secondly, I don't see why I am responsible to pay for your friend when they were not responsible enough to practice abstinence, get financially set, get an education, and everything else required to start a family.





Welfare = A portion of my hard earned paycheck for the 80% of Americans who were not responsible enough to make the right decisions (I dont mind giving to the other 20% which include handicapped and children under the age of 18 which fall under welfare)








But to answer your question, YES, the social worker has the right to do that. Welfare is only for the people who REALLY need...and they mean the people who are begging on the side of the street for food. Tell your friends to join the military, they can defend our country and make a very nice living.
Reply:If they're able to pay payments on three cars, then I would assume they are pretty well off, which is probably why the social worker denied them benefits. They're are families out there that are barely able to even pay for one car.
Reply:I don't know many families that can afford to have 3 cars, that is probably what the sw was trying to get at.
Reply:eh... this is really a byproduct of people abusing the system... and certain checks and balances being put in place to stop the abuse...





in other words, abusers "spoil the program" for many... and conservatives are always fighting to make it harder and harder for people to get help...
Reply:This sounds a bit suspect. In most states, if access to (or even ownership of) a car is used to look for or attend work, it is excluded from liquid assets.





Although by the way you worded your question, it sounds as if they already own two cars. That may be what's being considered; if they have the use of a third car, they could sell one or both of their other cars.
Reply:welfare has some weird rules. nephew, a single father, was denied welfar because he still lived at home. He paid rent when he could. Living at home was a lot cheaper than getting a place somewhere else. Go over the social worker's head.
Reply:I completely agree with Chris G. It is not my responsibility to bail out someone so irresponsible as to get pregnant. Did they ever hear of the new concept called birth control. Sorry but things do change when you become pregnant and I feel no responsibility to help them out.
Reply:Get a copy of the title which has the parents name on it. This shows ownership. After providing this, they can not claim the car belongs to your friend! I believe their is an appeals process.
Reply:She has like ten days to appeal. I dont think they should have been denied for the fact that they did not own it.
Reply:must be that your friend is american. had they been illegals, the checks could not be written fast enough.
Reply:Welfare is NOT a gift. It is money provided by THE TAXPAYERS - LIKE MOST OF US OUT HERE to temporarily help a family in crisis.





You keep referring to "they" in your post...does this mean there are two people living together with a child?





Why doesn't one of them go get a job and quit trying to suck off of those of us who drag our sorry butts out of bed everyday and go to work.





Advise them that McDonald's always needs burger flippers and go to work!!!!
Reply:Why did they mention the car? When you're being interviewed for Welfare Benefits, the idea is to understate your financial position (without actually lying) and keeping it simple. Did it not occur to your friend she was complicating matters by talking about something she does not actually own. The decision can be appealed but I'm sure there will be questions about why your friend even mentioned an asset that he/she does not own.
Reply:Tell your friends parents to sell the car and give them the money.
Reply:Maybe because the assumption was used that having access to a third vehicle even if not there own might mean they have access to finding a job..??..? Then again I would walk to work if needed.
Reply:Nope, they are not suggesting this at all! They are following protocol based upon law! I have a friend who works in this field and I can assure you that many try to defraud the government and we tax payers too!





I am not saying this is the case here. I am saying, if they have two cars and access to a third, then there has to be gas monies to run them...I am sure they looked into that!





Plus, they do have transportation to go looking for work as well. I KNOW this was considered!!





So, when a person files for assistance, they are subject to these judgements! Fair? Well, I think the unfairness lies in the loss of his/her job. Life is not fair but, we do our best!





I do wish them success and I pray their lives will vastly improve with a new job and security for this family.
Reply:Tell your friends to call or visit the office and request to speak to a manager explain their case and if necessary take all info. to prove the auto does not belong to them. Good luck to them.


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